

In our first sourdough starter troubleshooting post we tackled sourdough starter viability, and what will and won't cause your starter's demise. We also found out what a spoiled starter looks like, and how to know when it's time to throw it out and start over.
Today we'll take on the thorny question of whether it's worthwhile to try to revive an old but struggling starter — or if it's best to start over.
Creating your own starter from scratch is exciting and even a little magical; for details, see our step-by-step guide to creating a sourdough starter.
Simply mixing flour and water allows friendly bacteria and wild yeast to join forces and establish a balanced ecosystem that is able to impart great flavor and rise to your sourdough baking.
During the 6 to 10 days that it takes to get your starter up and running, it's a little more vulnerable to bacterial intruders and mold because it hasn't yet developed the defenses of a mature starter. But once fully developed, a well-maintained starter will readily fend off unwanted invaders and is very unlikely to spoil.
What if you inherited an old starter from your grandma and it's looking a little like it might be at death's door?
Sourdough authorities argue that there's nothing sacred about an old starter; a freshly developed "mature" starter will impart just as much flavor and rise to your bread.
Starting over with a new starter will get you back to baking great sourdough bread in a little over a week. So why take on the unpredictable task of trying to resurrect a sickly starter?
And is it even possible to thoroughly revive a starter that's sorely neglected?
Let's find out.
I start with two very neglected starters. Both starters (one all-purpose, one whole wheat) had been well-maintained until they were left at room temperature for a full month without being fed.
Why test both a white and a whole wheat starter? Starters can be maintained with all different types of flour, so I wanted to see if a whole wheat starter responded in the same way as a starter fed with all-purpose flour.
I pour the dark hooch off the neglected starters, and feed them following the feeding schedule called for in our sourdough starter recipe.
The revived starters smell a little "off" at first, but not awful; think vinegary sour, with a slightly unpleasant edge. Within four days they're rising well and have a nice, mildly tangy aroma. My theory is that both the acidity and the maturity of the neglected starters helps them fight off unwanted bacteria at the beginning of the process, which might allow for a faster return to a healthy and balanced starter.
By way of comparison, I also begin a starter from scratch. My brand-new starter is able to keep up in terms of rise. However, after four days it still smells a little funky and doesn't seem quite ready for baking bread.
On Day 4 (after only four feedings) I bake Naturally Leavened Sourdough Bread using my revived starters (which I mix together for the test), and my regularly well-maintained starters.
The results are a little shocking: two beautiful and delicious loaves. Both loaves taste mildly sour, although taste testers agree that the revived-starter loaf is slightly tangier.
On Day 5, after a total of six feedings, I try another test bake—this time including the brand-new starter; the revived starters, and my well-maintained regular starter.
Again, the results are surprising: three nice loaves, each with a similar rise and crumb structure. The only real difference is in the flavor of the breads. Each has mildly sour flavor, but the brand-new starter yields a slightly blander loaf.
It's definitely worth trying to revive a neglected starter (so long as it shows no signs of contamination). Pour off any discolored hooch, and start feeding it twice a day at room temperature. If it rises well and has a good aroma after three to four days, you're back in business!
We'd love to hear your own sourdough starter stories and questions below. Did you revive your starter from the brink of death? How long did it take? Is it thriving now?
For more information, please check out our first sourdough starter troubleshooting post.
February 16, 2020 at 1:13pm
Hi, I started with a whole wheat and water mixture, left it outside for 7 hours on a warm day (about 72) then brought it in overnight in a kitchen. After the next feeding it rose nicely. I fed it on schedule with unbleached white flour and water (also discarding along the way). Now on day 7 the starter hasn't risen but has a pleasant (although not like sourdough) sent. How much longer should I wait or start over?
February 16, 2020 at 1:47pm
In reply to Hi, I started with a whole… by Mike A. (not verified)
Hi Mike, if your starter is still bubbling, but not rising, then there is hope and I wouldn't give up on it yet. If you look through many of the previous comments you'll see that it's not uncommon for a starter during the creation process to experience a lull in rising that occurs around day 4 and can go on for several days. Sometimes trying an alternative feeding regimen that increases the acidity of the starter can be helpful in jumpstarting the yeast. If you'd like to give this method a try, you'll want to save 1/2 cup (4 ounces, 113g) starter and feed it 1/4 cup (2 ounces, 57g) water and 1/2 cup (2 ounces, 57g) whole wheat flour once per day. Continue with this feeding routine until the starter begins to rise predictably. Once you see this kind of activity, switch back to the 1/2 cup (4 ounces, 113g) starter, 1/2 cup (4 ounces, 113g) water and 1 scant cup (4 ounces, 113g) AP flour feedings twice daily. The starter may not respond immediately when you change up its feeding routine, but once you see the starter again rising predictably, then you should be ready to start baking!
Barb
February 29, 2020 at 5:18pm
In reply to Hi Mike, if your starter is… by balpern
Worked like a charm Barb. Thanks for the advice. One final question, I'm going to store it now in the fridge. I have a two quart stone jar with a hinge closure, it has a rubber gasket on the lid. Will this work for storage or should I take the gasket off?
March 1, 2020 at 8:26am
In reply to Worked like a charm Barb… by Mike A. (not verified)
Hi Mike, I'm so glad to hear your starter is up and running! I think it's fine to store your starter in the refrigertor with the gasket on the lid, but you do want to be sure that the starter amount fits with the size jar you're using. A very small amount of starter on the bottom of a big jar isn't ideal, but neither is a jar that is filled to the top, with no space for fermentation gases to accumulate. For the maintenance amount of starter we generally recommend (1 1/2 cups, 12 ounces, 339g) a quart sized jar is about right.
Barb
February 8, 2020 at 10:45am
Hi, I got a starter from a bakery (only a few tbsp) and followed their directions for feeding. It rose immediately and seemed to be doing well on the first day, but for the last 3 days it’s been quite liquidy and not rising. It smells great and has a lot of bubbles but isn’t passing the scoop in water test - how can I get it to rise?
February 8, 2020 at 2:10pm
In reply to Hi, I got a starter from a… by Emily (not verified)
Hi Emily, without knowing the exact makeup of your starter and its feeding regimen it's difficult for me to determine exactly what's going on. Usually a starter will thin out and have lots of bubbles on top when it's at the end of the fermentation process and ready for another feeding, so it's possible that the starter is rising and falling while you're at work or asleep. If you're not discarding a portion of the starter this could also cause it to ferment more quickly, since you'll be giving it a relatively smaller meal each time you feed it, compared to the amount of starter being fed. If you are feeding your starter with a different type of flour, this could be yielding a thinner consistency, since different types of flour will absorb water differently. And if it just happens to be a very high hydration starter (the weight of the water is higher than the weight of the flour), this type of starter has a harder time maintaining a rise because the bubbles that are created aren't held in place within the starter as easily as a thicker starter. We don't find the float test to be a very reliable indicator of starter readiness, so this may not indicate an issue, in and of itself. I would check back in with the bakery where you got the starter and see what they say, but it doesn't sound like you've done any permanent damage.
Barb
January 26, 2020 at 10:49am
I've heard a lot of debate about water vs milk for feeding. Are there benefits/drawbacks to each? Why does King Arthur recommend water?
January 27, 2020 at 12:22pm
In reply to I've heard a lot of debate… by Aldebaraan (not verified)
Hi Aldebaraan, I honestly don't know much about milk fed starters. All the bakeries I've ever worked in have used water/flour starters, including King Arthur Flour, and this seems to be the norm for artisan baking. It may just be that water-fed starters are easier and cheaper to maintain and may present slightly less risk of foodborne illness, but I would encourage you to explore milk fed starters elsewhere, and do your own experimentation. There are lots of ways to make and maintain sourdough starters, so you need not be limited by our preferred method.
Barb
January 15, 2020 at 12:19pm
I made a starter from scratch last month. I wasn't following good directions and I wasn't aware I needed to discard before each feeding. Nevertheless, it was tangy and bubbly by day 5 so I made bread (didn't turn out great, but I've never had great success with bread anyway) and then I put it in the fridge for a week. I took it out a week and a half ago now and I've been feeding it twice a day by weight (and discarding) but it just hasn't been the same as before I put it in the fridge. Its not as bubbly and it doesn't really smell like it did before (smells more like glue). I've been feeding it a combination of whole wheat and all purpose flour. Is there something else I should be doing?
January 18, 2020 at 9:10am
In reply to I made a starter from… by Carmen (not verified)
Hi Carmen, as long as your starter is rising and bubbling to some degree then you're on the right track. Usually off odors will work their way out with regular feedings, so I would continue on as you're doing. However, there is an alternative feeding routine you could try if you think it just isn't rising at all. This involves feeding with whole wheat flour only once a day, with a ratio (by weight) of 2 parts starter to 1 part flour and 1 part flour. So, for example, you'll save 4 ounces of starter and feed this 2 ounces of water and 2 ounces of whole wheat flour. Once the starter is rising predictably with this feeding schedule, then switch back to the twice a day feedings, all-purpose flour, and the 1:1:1 ratio of starter:flour:water. Once this is rising well, then you'll be good to go! For more help troubleshooting your sourdough starter, please don't hesitate to call our Baker's Hotline at 855-371-2253. We'd love to talk sourdough with you!
Barb
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