I've had the Zo Virtusoso for a couple years now and a Williams Sonoma BM before that. Both work fine... The best way to think about these machines conceptually is to to use them on manual/Custom programming mode and then the machine acts as a mixing machine and a kneading machine and a shaping machine and a baking machine. Custom mode allows you to use any feature combined or separately as you choose then you can adapt to any bread recipe as necessary. Super flexible that way. I will say that in my experience it really helps to pull the dough after the first rise in custom or automatic mode, quick 2 minute knead and roll into a log and put back in with or without the paddles for a better 2 lb loaf with no sinking in the middle every time.

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