For the first rise, you want to let the dough rise until it is puffy. The amount of time this will take depends on the conditions in your kitchen. A warmer location will take less time and a cooler location will take more time. The same is true for the second rise. It's not the time but the condition of the dough that will tell you when the loaf is ready for the oven. If you want the doughs to rise more slowly, keep them in a cooler location. 

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