Hi, I see in recipe how to ise bread machine..on dough cycle, or stand mixer.. 5 mins on 2nd speed.. but i don't see hints on kneading, such as, example .. knead for x minutes until dough is silky, or dough will be hard to start and will be consistency of modeling clay, or it should be very tacky to the touvh, or mildly tacky. Did I miss seeing these hints / instructions. Thank you.

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