I had never thought before about taking out the paddles until today (& I've used my machine a number of times) and looked it up online to see if it would be okay to do that and this came up and confirmed it. Thank you! Also, I use an older Zojirushi machine and at the start of the final rise, I did take out the dough to form it and also removed the paddles. However, I found that my bread really stuck to the paddle holder stubs to where I almost couldn't get the bread out of the machine. It took some effort and then there was quite a bit bread on the stubs, so the holes were a little bigger than what the pictures above showed. I think the next time I will oil or grease the stubs and hopefully the removal will be a bit easier. Also, since the machine has 3 manual memory settings that can be set, I set up one to do the final rise and baking only. I did a 10 minute preheat for this and set the knead and initial rising cycles to off, then set times for the final rising and baking; the warming setting I also set to off. By having a final rise and bake only memory set, I was able to take out the dough to shape after the first rising and not have to worry about how long it took. I just restarted the machine on the last rise/bake only settings when I returned the dough the way I wanted it. Bread turned out great!

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