I love my Z machine, it's the second one I've had since beginning to make bread in a machine. My husband and I did a lot of experimentation and learning using the machine. Being able to feel the dough and learn from the feel has helped immensely in bread baking for us. Sometimes if I'm lazy I will use it just for the dough and then take it out and bake what I want from it. I haven't tried it with Sour Dough yet, but hopefully someday I'll do that. Again I love the Z machine. Loved your tips too. Happy baking. PS I make Pizza dough every week from the Z recipe book, it's great and I love to knead it myself, its very ZEN!

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