Oh thank you, thank you, thank you for this great information. I retired more than a year ago and have been baking bread ever sense and have been following the clock as others have said with some success and some awful collapses. I will use this info. in a couple of days baking the Sandwich Rye Bread Recipe. I also use a Zo Supreme especially sense it's summer. Every loaf of Whole Wheat seems to partially or totally collapse in this machine using the recipe in the Zo book.

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