Thank you so much for this! I've long suspected that my loaves were over-risen, so I've always stuck to the minimum rise time suggested by the recipe. I decided to test it out on a loaf of harvest grains bread today. Lo and behold, it crowned an inch and passed the poke test after only 10 minutes in the loaf pan. It came out of the bread machine nice and warm, right into my sweltering NYC kitchen, but still. Ten minutes?? I think you've helped me solve the mystery of the collapsing bread!

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