Carolyn, they'll always help with the rise; and the bread improver will help with moistness of the crumb, too, as whole grain products can sometimes seem dry. How about if you do your own test - see what difference they make, side by side with a "control" loaf? That way you'll know whether or not they're worth the expense of getting them. BTW, sorry our Canadian service is more expensive - it's those darned taxes... PJH

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