I'm 62 and have never made a pie crust . I've always secretly wanted to and I remember my grandmother making the best pies ( probably used lard ) However my mother made making pie's seem a whole lot like a holiday punishment that the family expected of her . Then dessert was accompanied by her critiquing and appolizing for her failure ! Personally I thought they were pretty good . So I've just never wanted to inflict that pain on myself . However long story long . You've given me the courage Thank You

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