Want flakiness? USE LARD! Think about your grammas pies, or ones from the amish girls at a farmer market. If you don't have your gramma's recipe, get it. It's a DISGRACE to make a pie with any other kind of shortening, and you can't compete with the flavor. I can't believe that the author has trouble finding lard. Ever heard of amazon.com? https://www.amazon.com/Armour-0005010050438-Lard-64-Oz/dp/B008HDGDIA/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1469742651&sr=8-1&keywords=lard $16 for 5 pounds, including shipping

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