I use to fail at making pie crust, it didn't matter if I used butter or the combination of the two! Than I went to work as a baker at a apple orchard and learned how to make pie crust from them. People would drive from all over to buy our pies and would say it was because they loved our crust! 1/4 water 1/3 oil 2 cups of flour (pastry or all purpose) Mix all together and roll out. it makes 2 pie crust.

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