Charles, it sounds like your loaves might be over-proofed, which would cause flat loaves with little flavor or browning. If you'd like to chat more about how to ensure your sourdough bread rises just the right amount before going into the oven, please feel free to call our Baker's Hotline at 855-371-BAKE (2253). We're always happy to walk through your process with you to help you get a better loaf! Kat@KAF

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