I follow your method on hard roll making,", but used another recipe from KAF. I used the "Honey-Oat Pain de Mie" recipe, and the rolls turned out absolutely WONDERFUL! I used my Zo' Bread Machine, on the Dough setting. When it finished the kneading cycle, I placed the dough in an glass 8 cup measuring cup lightly greased. I let it rise for 60 minutes or to doubled. After the rising time, I punched it down gently. Then I weighed the entire dough on my kitchen scale so that I could calculate the weight for 10 rolls. The dough weight was 858 g. divided by 10 = 85.8 g. for each roll. There was a small bit left over, so I added the left over dough to each dough roll. I formed each roll and placed them on a large sheet pan with parchment paper, sprayed the rolls with warm water and sprinkled oat flake on to them. Covered them lightly with a large plastic bread bag cut open and let them rise for 45 mins. Preheated the oven to 400 F. When the rolls had risen I placed the pan into the heated oven and did a quick spray of water into the oven and closed the door and baked the rolls for 26 min. When they were done, I turned off the oven, opened the oven door a jar with the rolls still inside for 15 min. Removed the roll from oven and placed them on a cooling rack. They came out nice and had a nice semi-crispy crust and a lovely crumb interior, Very Pleased! And no more store bought rolls in this house/home. Thanks ever so much for this wonderful blog on roll making, Cheers! Constanze

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