I've been making up a batches using my Zoji machine to knead and 1st rise. I do everything by weight on a scale so it's just dump, zero the scale and dump again. Really easy and they come out perfect. The problem is my family goes through a batch in about 1 minute. I've lost count of how many batches I've made now. I was feeling bad about all that butter and so have been making them with mostly olive oil in the dough and using butter just for the brushings and that also works very well, tastes even better according to my wife. I'm making a double batch for Christmas dinner. Thanks very much for the recipe. Pete, I'm a fan of olive oil, so this sounds wonderful to me - next time I make these, I'm definitely going to try the oil. Thanks for sharing here - PJH

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