Well, I made these on Friday night and they turned out like hockey pucks...BUT, it's my fault. I rushed the proofing (with SAF Yeast). I also think I dumped too much flour in...anyway, they were more like hard biscuits. Today, I used 3 cups of flour and patiently did the 90 minute proof. I also used your dough enhancers-- dry milk powder, roll improver stuff (forgot the name) and a little bit of vital wheat gluten-- 1 tsp. Whoa! They came out BIG and fluffy and buttery-- these are the bomb! I wish I could attach my photos, but it'll be on my blog in the next day or two. I usually make whole wheat rolls, but these are officially my Thanksgiving rolls. Thanks so much! Debby, I'm glad you gave these another try - good show! They are indeed da bomb.... thanks for sharing your success. PJH

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