

Love sourdough, but looking for a bit more flexibility and ease when you bake with a starter? In The Casual Sourdough Baker, PJ shows you just how wonderfully stress-free sourdough baking can be, from simple but richly flavored loaves to countless easy ways to use your discard. If you're just beginning your journey, our Sourdough Baking Guide lays out the basics you need for success — whether you decide to become serious or go casual!
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You HATE throwing away excess sourdough starter when you feed it. You LOVE cake.
The solution? Sourdough … cake.
The words kinda land with a thud, don’t they? I mean, crusty, lusty sourdough bread, of course. Crispy sourdough crackers, sure. Flavor-packed sourdough waffles, you bet.
But tender, melt-in-your-mouth sourdough cake? Oxymoronish for sure.
That used to be what I thought, back before I learned that sourdough starter can be used in baked goods you’d never think to consider, like apple pie. And blueberry muffins. And yes, cake.
Certainly not to make your cake taste sour! And since we’re using unfed (discard) starter, not to help your cake rise. But there are very good reasons to add discard starter to cake batter:
Sourdough discard helps make cake tender rather than chewy. It inhibits gluten development, both because the gluten in the starter itself has already been weakened during fermentation, and the starter increases the overall acidity of the cake batter — which also serves to tenderize its gluten. The result? Cake with a more delicate crumb.
Sourdough discard enhances the flavor of the ingredients around it. Adding a judicious amount of discard starter to your favorite cake brings it to life, brightening its flavors without adding any sour taste. Also, discard starter usually includes some alcohol from fermentation, and alcohol is a flavor enhancer. (Think stirring Burgundy wine into a simmering stew or splashing vodka into your pasta sauce; same deal.)
Sourdough discard’s acidity extends the shelf life of baked goods, keeping your cakes (and muffins and quick breads) softer longer.
Want one more reason? The irksomeness of throwing away starter. If you’re like me and try to avoid food waste at all costs, you feel really uneasy having to discard some of your starter as part of its feed. So — don’t. Bake a cake instead!
Convinced? Here’s a thought: Use cake as a reminder to tend to your starter. Been awhile since you fed it? Grab your favorite cake recipe, feed your starter, and blend that potential discard right into the cake batter.
Happy, fed starter and a fresh-baked cake? Win-win!
We do offer a few ready-to-go sourdough cake recipes on our website (carrot cake, chocolate cake, and cinnamon crumb cake). But what we’re going to learn now is how to add discard starter to your own favorite cake recipes.
First, absorb this simple fact, because it’s going to be the basis of everything you need to know going forward:
To add discard starter to your cake recipe, reduce the weights of flour and liquid in the recipe by the same weights of flour and liquid in the starter you’re adding. E.g., if you add 120g discard starter to your recipe, reduce the recipe’s flour and water by 60g each.
OK, the fine print: The starter I’m talking about here is a 100% hydration starter, fed with equal parts flour and water by weight. Many if not most sourdough bakers maintain a 100% hydration starter. If yours is considerably more liquid or quite a bit stiffer, you’ll first have to ascertain its percentages of flour and water before you try substituting it for some of the flour and liquid in your cake recipe.
Also, between feedings your starter generates alcohol as part of its ongoing fermentation. That means that little by little, your starter will tip toward more liquid, less flour. But don’t worry; this transition is slight and you won’t have to take it into account when substituting starter for some of the flour and liquid in your cake recipe.
The short answer is, enough to enhance the cake’s flavor and texture; but not so much that the cake tastes sour, rises poorly, or that the acidity of the starter affects the leavening (baking powder or baking soda) you use.
It’s all about the balance between the “fresh” flour you sprinkle into the mixing bowl from your flour canister, which will produce good, strong gluten; and the flour already in your discard starter, whose gluten has been acidified and weakened. The perfect balance is some fresh flour to ensure a good rise and some discard flour to add tenderness.
I generally start by replacing no more than one-third of the existing flour in the recipe with the flour in my discard. If I like the result, I’ll go up to half next time — though at this level, you may start to see a slight reduction in rise.
It’s not exactly a dry ingredient, but it’s not totally liquid, either. At what point in your recipe prep do you add the starter?
The safest bet is simply to follow the recipe’s directions for mixing the batter (using your reduced amount of flour and liquid, of course), then stirring in the discard starter at the very end. One exception: a “dump everything into the bowl and stir together” recipe, in which case it doesn’t matter when you add the starter.
Yes. If your cake recipe doesn’t call for milk, buttermilk, water, brewed coffee, juice, or another liquid, it’s not a good choice for adding discard starter. Note: Melted butter, vegetable oil, liquid sweeteners, and eggs (yolks, whites, or both) don’t count as liquids, since their contribution to the cake goes far beyond their water. For example, don't try adding discard starter to your sponge cake, genoise, or angel food cake batter; its delicate egg-based structure will suffer.
Before we start: Don’t get too caught up in the arithmetic here! I’m going to be rounding off ingredient weights in some cases, and you can, too. A few extra grams flour or liquid here or there isn’t going to make or break your cake.
Let’s put this into action, shall we? I've chosen two cakes to "sourdough-ize:"
Classic Birthday Cake is made using the hot milk cake method, a variation on the creaming method. Sugar and eggs are beaten until light and fluffy, then the flour and other dry ingredients are gently stirred in. Milk, butter, and oil are heated on the stovetop and added to the batter at the very end, resulting in a moist, high-rising, fork-tender cake with delicate vanilla flavor and notes of butter.
King Arthur's Original Cake Pan Cake represents the other end of the spectrum. A typical "one-bowl" cake, the ingredients are all stirred together at once, in any order you choose. The resulting moist, deep-dark cake has a medium grain and assertive flavor, with dark chocolate's minor notes of both tang and bitterness.
Here’s the original recipe’s amount of flour and liquid (milk, in this case):
We don't want to overwhelm the cake's rather delicate flavor with sourdough, so we'll replace just one-third of its flour (one-third of 240g = 80g) with discard starter (160g, which is 80g flour + 80g water). Here are the new ingredient amounts:
Notice that all I’m doing here is replacing the total weight of the flour and milk in the original recipe (467g) with the same weight of flour, milk, and starter (467g).
Quick tip: When whole milk is the liquid you’re replacing with starter, try adding a teaspoon or so of melted butter or vegetable oil to the batter to make up for the milkfat you’ll be losing.
The result: A beautiful cake, high-rising, moist, and tender. Doing a side-by-side comparison with the original, the sourdough-enhanced version exhibits the same crumb and rise. And the flavor? An elusive, mellow tang that serves to heighten its vanilla-ness. It's like you're enjoying a nice slice of vanilla cake and someone snaps their fingers in your face and says, Wake up! "Oh. Yeah. This IS good cake!"
Here’s the original amount of flour and liquid (water, in this case):
This time let’s substitute 50% of the recipe’s flour with the flour in my discard starter. Which means I need to use 180g starter (90g flour and 90g water). Here are the new ingredient amounts:
Again, the total weight of the flour, water, and starter is equal to the total weight of the flour and water in the original recipe.
The result: As expected, substituting discard starter for half the flour in the recipe results in a cake that’s fractionally less tall: maybe 1/4” shorter than the original-recipe cake. But the flavor of the cake with starter is also noticeably more vibrant than the original. Again, discard starter provides the wakeup call, reminding you that yes, you LOVE chocolate cake in all its fudgy, nostalgic glory.
See that hungry starter nestled in the back of your fridge? It's time to feed it. But this time, don't discard the discard. Cake is a simple, sensible, satisfying way to use that starter you’d ordinarily trash.
What else can you do with that pesky discard starter? Discover all kinds of "ah-ha!" ways to use (not lose) your discard in our sourdough discard recipe collection.
Cover photo by Liz Neily
June 23, 2023 at 12:32pm
I made the Classic Birthday Cake with the sourdough insert. I called and spoke with one of your Baker Support Staff as to when to add the sourdough substitution. They indicated to add at the end at room temperature, which I did. I watched the video of the Classic Birthday Cake (no sourdough substituted) to be sure I was doing all correctly. All looked fine, until I took the cakes out to test, finger poke left an indentation so I bake another 5 minutes. When the cake pans came out of the oven the layers were very short. Very little rise. Since this was a Birthday Cake for my brother-in-law, I went ahead and iced it, but the cake with 2 layers and icing was barely 4" tall. I made another cake with out sourdough in it and it was fine. So I kept the sourdough Birthday Cake and we're eating it at home. Taste is good, but a bit dense and doughy vs flakey cake. Why would the sourdough discard make the cake not rise?
June 24, 2023 at 11:21am
In reply to I made the Classic Birthday… by Deborah (not verified)
Hi Deborah, am I right in assuming you substituted the amount of sourdough starter recommended in this blog post (160g) into the Classic Birthday Cake recipe, and removed 80g each of flour and milk from the recipe to compensate for this addition? First let me say that because of the low baking temperature this cake doesn't tend to dome and is not a terribly high rising cake. Especially if you opt for 9" cake layers, this thickness of each layer is likely to be only about an inch. For a taller cake I would recommend using 8" cake pans. As far as the dense and doughy texture goes, I think this may be related to the variable consistency of sourdough discard. Depending on how long your discard has been stored in the refrigerator, it can be very liquidy or still rather light and fluffy. Older starter tends to have very little remaining gluten strength and will function more like a liquid in the recipe, which could be related to your longer baking time. This could also hold back the rise a bit, since the reduction in flour is going to reduce some of the structure of the cake that contributes to rising. You may find that your results improve if you use sourdough discard that isn't quite so thin. Try using discard that has ripened within the past few days and then been refrigerated.
August 28, 2022 at 9:51pm
Hello, thanks for this post. I just used my sourdough starter with the classic birthday cake from this site and it was good, but it had a fermented aftertaste to it, obviously from the sourdough starter. Is this normal, or is my starter bad? I used all the correct adjustments of flour, milk and starter. I had just fed my starter the night before, maybe I should have waited longer so it was then considered "discard"?
September 3, 2022 at 9:43am
In reply to Hello, thanks for this post… by Robin (not verified)
Hi Robin, I don't think your sourdough starter is "bad," but that the flavor of the starter may be more noticeable than you like in this particular recipe. Adding discard might actually make the sourdough flavor stronger, particularly if your starter had been stored in your fridge for more than a week, so I don't think that was the issue. It sounds to me like this just wasn't the flavor profile you were looking for.
September 16, 2021 at 12:25pm
I've made the Original Cake Pan Cake using my discard few times. I love the flavour and texture, but each time I've made the cake, the centre has fallen a bit. Suggestions?
September 16, 2021 at 6:39pm
In reply to I've made the Original Cake… by Nancy Gillies (not verified)
Hi Nancy! When cakes or quick breads sink after being removed from the oven, the culprit could be a few different factors but they mostly stem from an abundance of liquid remaining in the batter.
For instance, if the hydration of the recipe is altered in anyway by using either too much water/milk/eggs or not enough flour (or even a different type of that absorbs less liquid), then your oven will have a tough time evaporating it all in the prescribed bake time. For this reason, measuring your ingredients by weight instead of by volume would be the most accurate way to proceed.
The next thing to check would be your oven's temperature. Many home ovens like to claim they are preheated to the desired temperature when they are actually 25 or even 50 degrees off (typically on the lower side). Baking your product at this deficit can result in under baking and your product will not have set up enough to structurally support the rise it has achieved. For this reason, an oven thermometer is a handy purchase to verify that your oven is actually holding its temperature evenly in all areas. In addition to this if you are baking multiple products simultaneously, there will be some degree of insulation occurring so each product might take a little longer to bake through. Aside from the classic toothpick test, it is more reliable to insert a digital instant-read thermometer into your the center of your baked good to determine if the interior is indeed baked through. Most bread recipes would be considered completely baked between 190-200 degrees F whereas pastry application should read between 200-210 degrees F.
The last reason baked goods like to sink in the middle has to do with pan size. If a recipe is calling for a specific pan or vessel size and you have chosen a smaller version of that vessel, then your batter/dough could crest above the rim of the pan initially, but then topple onto itself once it is unsupported by the pan, contributing to a sinking or collapsed look in a product. Double checking you have the correct pan size listed in the recipe is always handy when setting out to bake.
I hope you found these tips helpful. Happy baking!
September 29, 2021 at 6:26pm
In reply to Hi Nancy! When cakes or… by ablume
Thanks for such a thorough answer! I should have been a bit clearer - the middle doesn't sink after baking. It doesn't rise to the same height as the edges. I do measure using a scale and used the pan size from the recipe instructions. I'll try a digital thermometer next time, but if you have any other ideas, please send them my way. Could the problem be related to the sourdough discard I'm using?
September 29, 2021 at 7:49pm
In reply to Thanks for such a thorough… by Nancy Gillies (not verified)
Hi Nancy, another common situation that causes the cake to fall is similar to the oven temperature being inaccurate. If you are opening your oven and/or testing the cake to early, this will cause the cake to fall during baking. We hope this helps. Happy Baking!
August 1, 2021 at 10:20pm
I love your sourdough posts! I just made the chocolate sourdough cake, and I am so impressed at how forgiving sourdough can be. I left the milk/flour/sourdough discard mix on the counter and forgot about it for 4 hours, then came back and mixed the rest of the ingredients in, and it still baked up fine. I’ll have to try your tricks in some other cakes too.
August 2, 2021 at 11:11am
In reply to I love your sourdough posts!… by Michelle Wetzel (not verified)
We have a feeling after discovering how truly amazing sourdough cake is, you won't be able to forget about the batter again Michelle!
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